The last wage revision of BSNL employees was effected from 01-01-2007. Unions demanded for 5 year wage revision. Management told 10 years. No decision.
Even if it is 10 years, it is to be from 0 1-01-2017. For CG employees, pay commission is already appointed about two years back.
Is it not time for BSNL employees to raise wage revision issue?
Wage Revision of BSNL Employees
05 Tuesday May 2015
Posted in Uncategorized
Good afternoon sir,
Sir may i know the reason y it is not a time for asking wage revision
There is no objection for demanding wage revision.
sir,
I have taken up with PMO and got reply and informed by BSNL co they will do in 1/1/2017 without paying arrears for that you have to submit pay sclaes for NE with fitment as such they have done fo r other PSU wef 1/1/2012, even Loss making no excuse as far wage revision is concerned , Loss making PSUs FM has to support that is the ruling .
r.rangarajan
Please send a copy of the reply to me.
iti ltd did not get wage revision from 1.1.2007 since it is making loss.the same rule govt will apply for bsnl also for 2017 wage revision since bsnl is making loss for the past 5 years.so govt may not allow wage revision for bsnl this time.
The need of the hour is that all sick psus should join together and demand wage revision irrespective of whether psu is profitable or not.
First thing is to make BSNL a profit making company as before. This is possible if all the stake holders come together, the government, the management and the staff. Many loss making companies become profitable like SAIL etc. Your demand can be taken at later stage when there is no chance of reviving BSNL.
Good Evening sir,
plz clarify my doubt weather we will get pay revision in 2017 or not…………..Because all bsnl employees are waiting for next wage revisson
Dear Comrade, let us make all out efforts to save BSNl L and make it profitable. That is the main task. If there is profit, wage revision is not a big issue to solve.
Good morning sir,
I respect your word sir, but loss or profit of company depends on government policys ,it can’t compare to employees wages
It is correct. That is why the Forum is on struggle to change the policies of the government. But at the same time, unless the company is in profit, there will be problem i n wage revision as we have seen with regard to ITI, HMT and even Air India. We can not leave the better service to government and management alone. The workers also got a great role in improving the services. When the service is appreciated, we congratulate ourselves. When it is not good, we have to think why it is not good and take necessary remedial measures. That exactly is what Forum is doing.
Good morning sir,
By ur words, if bsnl in profit we will get wage revision, but it is not possible sir because bsnl to get profit it takes more time
whether profit or loss wage revision has to be done but you are giving agenda as i said earlier , last wage revision i took initiative . FM will support as far wage revison , as union head you have not done any job , last time perks also pending , it gives bad image
rangarajan
Dear Comrade,
The last wage revision from 01-01-2007 signed by BSNLEU as the recognised union and BSNL Management was one of the best wage revision in the PSUs, which has been appreciated much by the workers. Though initially, mis-understanding was created by some rival unions, once the orders were issued, every employees was happy. You have stated that you took the initiative for the last wage revision. Since I know you only through your e-mail ID, I can not express anything about your claim of your taking initiative in the last wage revision. While giving comments, it is appropriate that your name and address is given at least for the first time. This is the system when giving comments/opinions etc. As you know, the newspapers will not print the comments until all these information are given. Hence kindly intimate the same so that I can reply to the comments effectively.
sir,let us not be fooled by the notion that if employees work hard the company will make profit.The profitability of the company depends more on factors like,competition,technology changes etc.only if you are a monopoly,the profitability depends on solely the employees output.
Today iti employees are working harder than 20 years before,but the losses are increasing.The reason is competitive forces reduce the selling price.
Air india was selling air ticket for a delhi-bangalore one way at a price of 10,000/ during 1991.today the air ticket costs only 6000/.today all the rawmaterial cost has gone up for air india but the selling price is reduced.the reason is competition.
govt can not do anything in this regard because it is a open market.
let us not be in a wrong notion that bsnl will make profit if employees work hard.
How come elecy board employees are getting wage revision when they are in loss.
How come central govt employees get wage revision when the govt is in deficit.
like that psus should get wage revision whether they are in profit or loss.
you have to fight on this issue successfully other wise sick psu employees life will get doomed.
The question of profit and loss is one thing. It depends a lot on the policies being adopted by the Government. While the UDF government led by Congress comes in to power in Kerala, within years, almost all the state PSUs are in loss. At the same time, when the LDF led by CPI(M) comes to power, almost all these loss making PSUs are made profitable. It is the same with the BSNL also. The only difference is that both UPA and NDA are having anti-PSU policies. The fight against this neoliberal and and anti-people policies have to continue.
But the efficiency of service is another concern. The workers and employees have a big role in improving the customer service. Even while the Kerala Road transport Corporation is in loss, the workers are able to make it customer friendly, within the limitations. Just look at the service offered by the the State bank, LIC etc. The customers feel happy, even when they have to stand in the queue.
This aspect is focused here. Within the limitations of a wrong policy and implementation, the executives and non-executives can do a lot. To a certain extent this is being done in Kerala, T.Nadu etc. where the position has improved. It is not only money. The employees are getting salary and generally they are doing good work. But it can be improved, no doubt. In a crisis,every body has to contribute to pass over the crisis. Only putting all the blame on the government and the management alone can not do. The workers also have to improve.
you are only looking at very rare cases.for your information many state govt have closed down many state govt undertakings.up closed down uptron.karnataka closed down keonocs.tamilnadu closed down all factories of elcot.
one should understand the country as a whole gains a lot by allowing competition.govt gains a lot by way of taxes,
govt is very much right in liberalising a sector.
my point is why a psu employee should be different from a CG employee when it comes to wage revision.govt should not bring profit in to picture when it comes to psu employee benefit.
if the employee union is not able to delink wage revision from profitabilioty,it will be construed as a total failure on our part.sick psu employees suffer in a big way.
Dear Comrade,
I can well understand your mindset to get wage revision, whether there is profit for the company or loss. The demand is also correct from the side of the worker.
But you have to take the reality also. When BSNL was formed as a corporation,all wanted increased wages since it became a PSU. The first wage revision in 2000 and II wage revision in 2007 increased the wages for BSNL employees, much higher than that of Government employees. None of us insisted that our wage should be on the basis of the Pay Commission for the CG Employees on the same rate. Higher Pension was also received.There are about 240 Central PSUs. PSUs rules are different and government rules are different. Once profitable companies, HMT and hindustan Teleprinters are being closed or privatised. The situation is very difficult. That is why BSNL employees went on Two days strike recently for making the government to take necessary actions for revival of BSNL. We should get public support also for making the government to help BSNL. Wide campaign amongst the people, MPs , MLAs etc. are required. This is our immediate task. Also BSNL has to be strengthened. it is difficult, but not impossible. We have to be positive and not negative.
when bsnl that comes under the same ministry of communication is not able to support iti by way of giving orders at preferential price to iti,how you can expect public support to bsnl survival.
you mean to say govt should instruct public to take services from bsnl.
you mean to say govt should instruct public to buy only hmt watches
ridiculous and un workable solution.
by the way why bsnl is buying eqpts from mncs instead of from iti.
do not expect help from govt for getting business.
it is the survival of the fittest in a competitive market.
fight for the rights not for the profit.i am not negative and iam very realistic.
Public Support is necessary for every service. BSNL does not have that support in many centres. By our good service, we can get it. But, of course, that alone is not sufficient. The government rules are different and PSU rules are different and private rules are different. The present fight is for survival of BSNL on one side and right for the workers on the other side. By the way, ITI was given 30% reservation in equipment with 10% extra payment, but due to many reasons, even that they could not make. It is not ridiculous to mandate certain services by govt. They have done it for Air India. They have done it for ITI (only 30%). If the government wants, they can do it for BSNL also. But the main objection for this from some quarters is that the service compared to the private is not up to the mark. There may be differences on that, but there is some truth also. Why private insurers are not able to compete with LIC, a PSU? LIC continues to have more profit and market share. Many PSUs are winners in competition also. BSNL was also up to 2006. The denial of equipment was the main reason how the BSNL fell back. I have no doubt that despite all the difficulties and pro-private policy of the government, BSNL will survive and serve the people. The work foce had been able to stop disinvestment of BSNL, even after the government took decision for the same more than once.
Times have changed.BSNL to compete with private telecom operators is not easy .Public mood depends on comfort,facilities and expenditure. They move towards less expenditure for the same service. Until BSNL develops commercial outlook and discard loss making operations like rural service,maintainance of dead assets like open,surplus lands,vacant buildings, non-performing employees including Sr officers…it is approaching it’s doom’s day soon. History tells how HMT,HCL etc dead.
The main reason for the present situation is the anti-PSU, pro-private policy of the government. Its motto is “business is not the business of the government”, which slogan was raised by Vajpai Government and continued by Manmohan Singh Government. This policy is aggressively pursued by the present Modi Government. All methods are used to cut down the PSUs and hand over the same to the private companies to maximise profit.Where there is no public sector, the service/commodities become costlier as there is no control. For example, when the private companies alone were in the mobile sector, the charges were high sky. It was only after the MTNL and BSNL started mobile services, that the rent and service charges came down very low. Once, both these PSUs are not in the field, the charges will again increase very much,just like in the foreign countries.
There is no doubt that the management and employees have to improve, become customer friendly and provide a better service. But that alone will not improve the financial viability. The fact that BSNL was profitable till the government took its all cash balances and did not allow to procure the much needed equipment, is a well known fact. Mobile service licences were not granted for long seven years to BSNL and MTNL, the then existing service providers, when the same was granted to private companies. Most of the Ministers of Communications since private entry in telecom are involved in corruption like Sukhram, Dayanidhi Maran, A.Raja etc. Almost all the private companies are cheating the government in paying revenue share etc. as also in the tax. A PSU can never do the same. Private companies can purchase equipment whenever necessary. How much hurdles a PSU has to overcome to purchase anything? Thousands of crores of rupees of taxes and charges for private companies like Vodafone or Nokia are waived by the government, but for BSNL, despite its weak financial position, the government ensures that every charges are paid.Rules are different for private and public sectors.
If this anti-PSU policy of the government continues, as you said, it will be very difficult to any PSU to continue, not only HMT, HCL etc. The private sharks want their land, which are in the important centre of any city and the government is on a selling spree of the property of the people to enrich the private as well as themselves. What is required is a sustained struggle against the wrong policies of the government, continued contact with the public, provide a better service to the customer and an efficient management. This is the struggle that the BSNL employees are waging to sustain and strengthen it. It may not be easy, but it is not impossible.
Good evening sir,
sir what about wage revision of bsnl,almost nearly ten years….banks lic departments got wage revision for 5years
Reply given several times. For LIC, Banks etc., it is 5 years period wage revision. For BSNL, though we demanded 5 years, it has not been agreed.
sir from a clerical position in BSNL, who will retire in 2018 and currently in Officer garde. What would be gross and net salary of the person
Let us wait for wage revision.
Good afternoon sir,
Sir,just know i seen in website that,cmd of bsnl said…..bsnl employees will not get hike of salary like 7th pay commission,if bsnl get lose in 2015-16…..